Monday, September 12, 2005

Is there a story here?

Thanks to The Awareness Center, we now have some more background (and aliases) of Rabbi Alan Horowitz, there may be two areas worth looking deeper at:

1) Horowitz lived at Ohr Somayach, Monsey for several years. That's where Rabbi Yaakov Menken went to Yeshiva and got smicha (ordination). The question is: Were they both there around the same time?

2) Horowitz lived in Iowa for several years. There were behavioral problems among young men in this community, young men who would have been in their teens when Horowitz lived there. Did Rabbi Horowitz know Pinchas Lew during his years in Iowa? Rabbi Pinchas Lew was part of a group of troubled young Orthodox men who were involved in armed robberies (and Lew later had a sexual misconduct allegation made against him).

Some of the reasons I'm asking these questions is because we all know that the majority of sex offenders were abused themselves as children. I'm not making an excuse for their behaviors, I'm just stating facts. If our communities really want to do something to end sexual abuse and sexual assault, we need to examine everything. It's time to break the taboos.

I am also posting my thoughts here because it seems no Jewish newspaper would be interested in looking into these issues. I can't figure out if it's because they fear loosing funding from JUF, due to harassment by community leaders, fear of lossing their jobs, or what?

FYI: The secular papers are only interested in cases that deal with the Catholic priests. They seem to sell more papers then rabbis who abuse.

28 Comments:

Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

Last year after Rabbi Menken posted criticism of Gary Rosenblatt, the Awareness Center and support for Rabbi Eisgrau and, if I'm reading correctly between the lines, Rabbi Matis Weinberg:

1.
http://jewishwhistleblower.blogspot.com/2004/12/too-hot-for-cross-currentscom-my.html#comments

2.
http://jewishwhistleblower.blogspot.com/2004/12/rabbi-yaakov-menken-commits-mozi-shem.html#comments

I responded with several comments with bizarre responses from Menken. Unfortunately, I did not save all of them before they were deleted. But I did save several of them and remember the content of the others.

1) My comment on cross-currents

Here’s a perfect example of a rasha. He’s even a product of Maryland and it’s institutions.

see:
http://theawarenesscenter.org/Horowitz_Alan.html

Perhaps you can explain to me how the silence of the Jewish community and it’s leadership did not protect this monster and allow him to move from one community to the next destroying so many young lives.

Comment by jewishwhistleblower — 12/31/2004 @ 2:57 am

2) After the comment was deleted Rabbi Menken made comments which I responded to on my blog (statements with the "<" are by Menken, my response follows, links no longer contain the original data):

At 7:54 AM, jewishwhistleblower said...
link to current version:
http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2004/12/30/blogging-and-emloshon-horaem-gossip/#comments


At 8:05 AM, jewishwhistleblower said...
>Ordinarily, we’re not going to delete comments. But when someone
>not only goes off topic,

I think it was pretty dead on topic.

>but in addition names names

The only name I name was Rabbi Alan J. Horowitz who to this day promotes sex between adults and children. He writes for NAMBLA. If ever there was a rasha Rabbi Alan J. Horowitz is it.

see:
http://theawarenesscenter.org/Horowitz_Alan.html

>and spreads rumors,

What rumors?

This is pure mozi shem rah.

3) Rabbi Menken then went on to claim that he was very familiar with the Rabbi Horowitz case and that the rabbonim involved (including the rabbanut in Baltimore) did in fact take steps to protect the community from Horowitz. Unfortunately, I don't have a copy of the exact response as they were deleted very quickly with much of the rest of the post.

4) Now we know that the rabbanut in Baltimore took steps to ensure that after his 1983 conviction Horowitz would not spend any jail time, that he would live on a Yeshiva campus in Monsey and go on to prey on children for another decade in anonymity.

Oh, yeah, and the Yeshiva in Monsey that's where Menken studied and was molded. Where he learned that one has to protect the name of even Rabbi Horowitz who to this day is an unrepentant child molester who promotes adults having sex with children, while attacking and claming to know the motives of Gary Rosenblatt and the Awareness Center.

Apparently, one must protect rashas, sexual molesters who prey on the vulnerable and attack anyone who speaks out.

September 12, 2005 4:44 PM  
Anonymous meir lichter said...

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September 12, 2005 6:56 PM  
Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

Per Luke Ford:
http://lukeford.net/profiles/profiles/yaakov_menken.htm

"He was ordained by Ohr Sameach of Monsey, New York. His rebbe is rabbi Silberberg of Monsey, who brought Menken his biggest client -- Compuplus."

>Ohr Somayach in the very early
>1990s and never saw or heard of
>Horowitz,

That is likely because Horowitz has been using aliases. The fact is there was a court order at the time requiring him to get permission from the court if he wanted to live somewhere other than Ohr Somayach, Monsey. The arrangement his lawyer and rabbinical protectors negotiated to keep him out of jail was for him to live on the Yeshiva campus.

http://www.theawarenesscenter.org/disciplineorder1.pdf

September 12, 2005 7:22 PM  
Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

>Ohr Somayach in the very early
>1990s and never saw or heard of
>Horowitz,

Learn to read, Horowitz was there in the 1980s.

Here's background and a picture.
http://www.theawarenesscenter.org/Horowitz_Alan.html

September 12, 2005 7:46 PM  
Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

>* Menkin never was a student at
>Ohr Somayach in Monsey


Hey meir lichter your facts stink.

Try actually looking at Menken's own website.

http://www.cross-currents.com/the-writers
Yaakov Menken
...
Yaakov Menken earned his Bachelor’s degree from Princeton University in Computer Science, and then pursued Rabbinic studies in Yeshivas Ohr Somayach of Monsey, NY, Beth Medrash Govoha in Jerusalem, and the Mirrer Yeshiva Jerusalem, before founding Project Genesis in 1993.
...

September 12, 2005 7:58 PM  
Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

meir lichter get your facts straight:

1) I'm not Vicki

2) Read the discipline report I linked. Horowitz lived on campus for several years in the 1980s.

3)Menken admits he went to Ohr Somayach, Monsey in the bio he posted on his own website. Why are you denying facts?

Learn to read, Meir and get your facts straight. Stop embarassing yourself.

September 12, 2005 8:02 PM  
Anonymous meir lichter said...

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September 12, 2005 8:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is meir lichter Tovia Singer or Harlan Kilstein (AKA: Tsvi Kilstein)?

September 12, 2005 8:14 PM  
Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

>meir lichter said...
>Menken was never an enrolled
>student at Ohr Somayach to my
>knowledge. I was learning there
>FULL TIME during the years that
>Menken lived in Monsey (he since
>moved to Baltimore).

So either Meir is wrong or Menken has misrepresented his credentials.

http://www.cross-currents.com/the-writers
Yaakov Menken
...
Yaakov Menken earned his Bachelor’s degree from Princeton University in Computer Science, and then pursued Rabbinic studies in Yeshivas Ohr Somayach of Monsey, NY

>meir lichter said...
>There are hundreds of people who
>come to learn in the Ohr Somayach
>bais medrash individually or in
>pairs (chavrusos). Menken might
>have come there to learn. The
>place is open to the public 24/7.
>He was not enrolled there.


So either Meir is wrong or Menken has misrepresented his credentials.

Per Menken:
and then pursued Rabbinic studies in Yeshivas Ohr Somayach of Monsey, NY

And I'm still not Vicki, no matter how many times you say the same lie.

Get your fact straight.

September 12, 2005 8:19 PM  
Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

Meir is posting as me, note he also linked his earlier posts to my profile.

I guess Meir really doesn't care about facts. This is an attempt to smear, not to address any issues.

Not mine:
jewishwhistleblower said...
Meir Lichter is ...

September 12, 2005 8:23 PM  
Anonymous meir lichter said...

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September 12, 2005 8:24 PM  
Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

>"pursued" does not
>equal "received semicha". Nice
>try, Luke/Vicki/Blower.

Read:
"Horowitz lived at Ohr Somayach, Monsey for several years. That's where Rabbi Yaakov Menken went to Yeshiva and got smicha (ordination). "

"Where he got smicha" does not equal "gave him smicha".

Your claims:
1)* Menkin never was a student at Ohr Somayach in Monsey

Per Menken:
>pursued Rabbinic studies in
>Yeshivas Ohr Somayach of Monsey, NY

Your claim:
* Ohr Somayach does not ordain rabbis, so Menkin certainly did not get smicha there

Per Luke Ford:
http://lukeford.net/profiles/profiles/yaakov_menken.htm

"He was ordained by Ohr Sameach of Monsey, New York. His rebbe is rabbi Silberberg of Monsey, who brought Menken his biggest client -- Compuplus."

>Menken was not an enrolled
>student. If he chose to sit in
>the Ohr Somayach bais medrash
>instead of his living room while
>studying Yoreh Deah, it does not
>amount to anything.

Then Menken has misrepresented himself in his bio.

>Again, Ohr Somayach does not
>confer semicha, nor did Menken
>claim to have recieved semicha
>from them in the quote that you
>posted.

1) That does not preclude a Rabbi there giving smicha.
2) Menken has not stated where he got smicha in his bio. So that helps in no way.

September 12, 2005 8:35 PM  
Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

As I stated before.

Meir is posting as me, note he also linked his earlier posts to my profile.

I guess Meir really doesn't care about facts. This is an attempt to smear, not to address any issues.

That's his sole purpose.

September 12, 2005 8:37 PM  
Anonymous meir lichter said...

Here are the facts, Vicki:

Ohr Somayach does not confer semicha, nor do any of the Rabbis there.

Menken was not an enrolled student at Ohr Somayach.

If Menken did any independent studies towards his semicha while sitting on the benches at Ohr Somayach, then perhaps he could claim to have "pursued rabbinic studies" there.

I am not Menkin and I am not here to defend him. He can do that himself, if he chooses.

September 12, 2005 8:48 PM  
Anonymous meir lichter said...

>Meir if you continue this way I will
>have no option but delete all of your
>postings.

Nice tactic. Is one of your personalities a member of the Gestapo?

September 12, 2005 8:51 PM  
Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

>meir lichter said...

Fake name.

>Here are the facts, Vicki:

Not Vicki.

>Ohr Somayach does not confer
>semicha, nor do any of the Rabbis
>there.

See above.

Please talk to Rabbi Zimmerman as "he designed Ohr Somayach’s Smicha Program to be of the most comprehensive nature, ensuring graduated have a good halachic grasp of all issues that may face a contemporary outreach rabbi." He
must be so frustrated with his spare time as according to you "Ohr Somayach does not confer semicha, nor do any of the Rabbis there."

http://www.ohrsomayach.edu/faculty/teaching_faculty.shtml

Menken was not an enrolled student at Ohr Somayach.

Per Menken:

http://www.cross-currents.com/the-writers
Yaakov Menken
...
Yaakov Menken earned his Bachelor’s degree from Princeton University in Computer Science, and then pursued Rabbinic studies in Yeshivas Ohr Somayach of Monsey, NY, Beth Medrash Govoha in Jerusalem, and the Mirrer Yeshiva Jerusalem, before founding Project Genesis in 1993.
...

>If Menken did any independent
>studies towards his semicha while
>sitting on the benches at Ohr
>Somayach, then perhaps he could
>claim to have "pursued rabbinic
>studies" there.
>
>I am not Menkin and I am not
>here to defend him. He can do
>that himself, if he chooses.

No you're here to smear. The truth or facts are irrelevant to you.

September 12, 2005 9:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

meir lichter = melechter = molester

very clever NOT

September 12, 2005 9:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is from another post on this blog:

Anonymous said...

Meir,
You sure have a lot of emotions for Vicki Polin. It's amazing that someone who has only read about her on line would respond the way you do?

I wonder if you are listed on The Awareness Center's page as an alleged or convicted offender

September 12, 2005 9:36 PM  
Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

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September 12, 2005 9:50 PM  
Anonymous VOICE OF REASON said...

This is a blog about healing. It is vitally important for us not to "name call" in the comment section.

It's ok to discuss views, we all have them. But personal attacks are never ok.

September 12, 2005 9:54 PM  
Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

Meir is only here to make personal attacks.

You can see from the thread, that he is the one escalating with personal attacks that are irrelevant.

He is clearly not interested in discussion.

September 12, 2005 10:03 PM  
Anonymous meir lichter said...

Rabbi Zimmerman teaches students who are pursuing semicha. Neither Rabbi Zimmerman nor Ohr Somayach confer semicha. The students must go elsewhere for that.

Besides, Rabbi Zimmerman was not even teaching at Ohr Somayach until 6 years ago. Menken was long gone by that point.

September 13, 2005 7:35 AM  
Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

>meir lichter said...
>Rabbi Zimmerman teaches students
>who are pursuing semicha. Neither
>Rabbi Zimmerman nor Ohr Somayach
>confer semicha. The students must
>go elsewhere for that.

Ohr Somayach’s Smicha Program doesn't lead to smicha? A smicha program that leads to no sicha? Thank you Meir for the belly laugh.

Now the facts:

http://www.ohrsomayach.edu/programofferings/semicha.shtml

Semicha Program

OVERVIEW
Over the years, Ohr Somayach has recognized that our students can fill a specific niche in the broader Jewish community of today. A young man who is a product of the modern world, and is familiar with its culture and style, and has also formed a strong commitment and understanding of Torah, is uniquely equipped to be a role model and teacher.

With this in mind, the Meshech Chochmah Rabbinic Training Program was formulated. This program encompasses both the classical material that prepares one for the Rabbinate, together with training in areas that are specifically relevant to a role in kiruv rechokim, reaching out to the unaffiliated.

It is very gratifying that many of our students who have completed this program are serving communities throughout the country and in Europe, in both Rabbinic and teaching positions.


FACULTY
This two-year course, culminating in Rabbinic S’micha (ordination), is led by Rabbi Feivel Zimmerman, the rabbi of K’hal Bnai Ashkenaz of Monsey. Rabbi Zimmerman presents course materials and guidelines for weekly study, and supervises the testing that leads to ordination. He is assisted by Rabbi Yisroel Meir Teitelbaum, who reviews the material daily with the students.


ELEGIBILITY
This afternoon program supplements the regular morning learning schedule of Ohr Somayach, and is only available to students in the advanced Bais Medrash program. One must be a full-time student of Ohr Somayach in order to participate, unless specific arrangements are made with the administration.


OBJECTIVE
The objective of this division is to train Rabbinic leaders, community lay leaders, and outreach professionals. With these goals in mind, classes geared to the development of communication skills and the transmission of hashkafah form an integral part of the course.

September 13, 2005 9:19 AM  
Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

Meir lichter said...
>Besides, Rabbi Zimmerman was not
>even teaching at Ohr Somayach >until 6 years ago. Menken was
>long gone by that point.

All of which, of course, is irrelevant to the discussion.

September 13, 2005 9:22 AM  
Anonymous Vicki's BBQ said...

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September 13, 2005 10:36 AM  
Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

Well "meir lichter" a not so clever twist on the word molester is showing his true colors by repeating this weeks Tendler supporters' talking points.

Obviously, he ran out of facts.

So now he falsely accuses me of being an anti-semite and posts numerous links to terrible websites. I guess he has to keep posting the links in order to raise the ranking of these anti-semetic websites on google.

So to summarize:
1) Meir's "facts" are false.
2) Meir is a supporter of Rabbi Mordechai Tendler. Which makes him part of the group that includes Rabbi Mordechai Tendler supporters Rabbis Tovia Singer and Harlan Kilstein who are out to smear the Awareness Center.
3) Meir has decided that someone like me who exposes corruption is more dangerous than the elements of the rabbanut who have protected child molester Horowitz and child molester Horowitz.

September 13, 2005 12:23 PM  
Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

>3) Meir has decided that someone
>like me who exposes corruption is
>more dangerous than the elements
>of the rabbanut who have
>protected child molester Horowitz
>and child molester Horowitz.

Sounds like Meir was educated at the same place as Rabbi Menken. See first post in thread.

September 13, 2005 12:25 PM  
Blogger rebtsvi said...

It's really curious to see me listed as someone out to get the Awareness Center.

I think the Awareness Center could use some halachically grounded leadership.

I also think Vicki Polin needs to step down.

Spent way too much time here.

September 27, 2005 4:43 PM  

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